From tony at sutorius.org Mon Oct 10 12:26:20 2011 From: tony at sutorius.org (Tony Sutorius) Date: Mon Oct 10 12:26:28 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] Interesting: Japanese throw fire extinguisher Message-ID: <38AEE115-F92B-4AAF-B554-CB4B7DA4EF0B@sutorius.org> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_7nMphB6JY From drunkenjhairy at gmail.com Mon Oct 10 13:01:42 2011 From: drunkenjhairy at gmail.com (Duncan Henry) Date: Mon Oct 10 13:01:59 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] Interesting: Japanese throw fire extinguisher In-Reply-To: <38AEE115-F92B-4AAF-B554-CB4B7DA4EF0B@sutorius.org> References: <38AEE115-F92B-4AAF-B554-CB4B7DA4EF0B@sutorius.org> Message-ID: I wonder what it is, Carbon Tetrachloride in fire grenades used to work well too... except for the cancer... On Oct 10, 2011 12:26 PM, "Tony Sutorius" wrote: > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_7nMphB6JY > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise > From simon.quirke at ihug.co.nz Mon Oct 10 14:22:42 2011 From: simon.quirke at ihug.co.nz (Simon Quirke) Date: Mon Oct 10 14:22:55 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] Interesting: Japanese throw fire extinguisher In-Reply-To: References: <38AEE115-F92B-4AAF-B554-CB4B7DA4EF0B@sutorius.org> Message-ID: <1ebb69271ceb4c74f37da11de2d17233@vodafone.co.nz> If you undertsnad it, you might find the answers here: http://www.bonex-asean.com/sat119.html On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:01:42 +1300, Duncan Henry wrote: > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > I wonder what it is, Carbon Tetrachloride in fire grenades used to work > well > too... except for the cancer... From kiwis1 at slingshot.co.nz Mon Oct 10 16:29:42 2011 From: kiwis1 at slingshot.co.nz (Stephen) Date: Mon Oct 10 16:29:53 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] News:- Fitness tests - Police vs Fire Message-ID: <05de01cc86fc$d98a45a0$8c9ed0e0$@co.nz> http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/5755382/Hundreds-of-cops-flunk-fitnes s-tests From 4kings at nettel.net.nz Mon Oct 10 16:38:03 2011 From: 4kings at nettel.net.nz (Ian & Heather King) Date: Mon Oct 10 16:38:41 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] News:- Fitness tests - Police vs Fire References: <05de01cc86fc$d98a45a0$8c9ed0e0$@co.nz> Message-ID: Interesting comment that because so many coppers flunk the Police one, the NZ Fire one " must therefore be easier"? ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen To: 'VollyNet' Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 4:29 PM Subject: [VollyNet] News:- Fitness tests - Police vs Fire VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/5755382/Hundreds-of-cops-flunk-fitnes s-tests ---------------------------------------------------------------- MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise From pitchey at xtra.co.nz Mon Oct 10 17:41:27 2011 From: pitchey at xtra.co.nz (John Pitchford) Date: Mon Oct 10 17:41:38 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] News:- Fitness tests - Police vs Fire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1318221687.96587.YahooMailClassic@web96108.mail.aue.yahoo.com> They didn't say that, they said "Hundreds more police than firefighters fail their compulsory fitness tests but experts say it could be because the fire test is too easy." --- On Mon, 10/10/11, Ian & Heather King <4kings@nettel.net.nz> wrote: From: Ian & Heather King <4kings@nettel.net.nz> Subject: Re: [VollyNet] News:- Fitness tests - Police vs Fire To: "VollyNet" Date: Monday, 10, October, 2011, 4:38 PM VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz ---------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting comment that because so many coppers flunk the Police? one, the NZ Fire one " must therefore be easier"? ? ----- Original Message ----- ? From: Stephen ? To: 'VollyNet' ? Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 4:29 PM ? Subject: [VollyNet] News:- Fitness tests - Police vs Fire ? VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ ? For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz ? ---------------------------------------------------------------- ? http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/5755382/Hundreds-of-cops-flunk-fitnes ? s-tests ? ---------------------------------------------------------------- ? MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles ? ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of ? personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise ---------------------------------------------------------------- MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise From 4kings at nettel.net.nz Mon Oct 10 18:07:45 2011 From: 4kings at nettel.net.nz (Ian & Heather King) Date: Mon Oct 10 18:08:18 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] News:- Fitness tests - Police vs Fire References: <1318221687.96587.YahooMailClassic@web96108.mail.aue.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think we both actually are saying the same thing JP. Just getting at why the scientists seem to think the Fire one is easier, through the involvement of the Police failure rate? As you know 2 different tests, so such a comparison is hardly relevant. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Pitchford To: VollyNet Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [VollyNet] News:- Fitness tests - Police vs Fire VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz ---------------------------------------------------------------- They didn't say that, they said "Hundreds more police than firefighters fail their compulsory fitness tests but experts say it could be because the fire test is too easy." --- On Mon, 10/10/11, Ian & Heather King <4kings@nettel.net.nz> wrote: From: Ian & Heather King <4kings@nettel.net.nz> Subject: Re: [VollyNet] News:- Fitness tests - Police vs Fire To: "VollyNet" Date: Monday, 10, October, 2011, 4:38 PM VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz ---------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting comment that because so many coppers flunk the Police one, the NZ Fire one " must therefore be easier"? ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen To: 'VollyNet' Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 4:29 PM Subject: [VollyNet] News:- Fitness tests - Police vs Fire VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/5755382/Hundreds-of-cops-flunk-fitnes s-tests ---------------------------------------------------------------- MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise ---------------------------------------------------------------- MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise ---------------------------------------------------------------- MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise From ben at diversity.net.nz Mon Oct 10 18:11:40 2011 From: ben at diversity.net.nz (Ben Kepes) Date: Mon Oct 10 18:11:57 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' In-Reply-To: <0A03A797D58744BD9B530436B23BB956@acer20d14aded3> References: <208659BA105146B686864A045A2FBA3E@acer20d14aded3> <0A03A797D58744BD9B530436B23BB956@acer20d14aded3> Message-ID: slightly off topic but for those that are interested, here's an update on the chch quake fiasco... http://www.diversity.net.nz/something-is-rotten-in-the-state-of-christchurchpart-two/2011/10/09/ b Ben Kepes - Diversity Limited E ben@diversity.net.nz | P +64 3 3146006 | M 021 2384136 skype ben_kepes | twitter @benkepes web www.diversity.net.nz On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Bruce & Pat McCulloch < b.p.mcculloch@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Yeah, I forgot, keep your hand on your wallet, when he's around! > > -----Original Message----- > From: vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz > [mailto:vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz] On Behalf Of Bruce & Pat > McCulloch > Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 11:11 p.m. > To: 'VollyNet' > Subject: RE: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > What really amazes me about all this is how politically correct he/she > appears to be. Once a crim, always a crim. And forever trying to justify > themselves. Again once a crim, always a crim. > > I AM A EX FIREFIGHTER WITH 32 YEARS, AND I NEVER, NEVER SEEN A FIREFIGHTER > EVEN INTERESTED IT TAKING/STEALING ANYTHING, PERIOD!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz > [mailto:vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz] On Behalf Of Bruce & Pat > McCulloch > Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:50 p.m. > To: 'VollyNet' > Subject: RE: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > With a grouch? > > -----Original Message----- > From: vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz > [mailto:vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz] On Behalf Of Ian & Heather King > Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 7:22 p.m. > To: VollyNet > Subject: Re: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Yes and coming from an ex firefighter too. I am lead to believe he was a > firefighter in Auckland in some capacity???? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Butler > To: VollyNet > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:34 PM > Subject: RE: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' > > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > I wonder if it possible to take a defamation case, since he is slandering > an entire service, and in effect, each individual person in it. > What a plonker. Such a poorly worded and erratic article too. It just > jumps all over the place. All rumour and generalisations, and in doing so, > painting each responder as a potential criminal. > What a fantastic way to say thank you to everyone out there that risked > their own lives to save others. > > -----Original Message----- > From: vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz > [mailto:vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz] On Behalf Of Shane Briggs > Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2011 6:09 p.m. > To: VollyNet > Cc: VollyNet > Subject: Re: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Claims of solders looting in other countries during war doesn't not equal > any form of evidence, of search and rescue personnel who put themselves out > to HELP others, not rip them off! > > What an absolute clown, I'm just disappointed the media would even post > such a rumor with no evidence. > > (Sent from iPhone 4) > > On 4/10/2011, at 15:28, Paul Butler wrote: > > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10756480 > > > > Quake looting claims 'outrageous' > > Someone better have some evidence on this to cast those kind of > aspersions.... > > > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > ** > > "This message (and any files transmitted with it) are confidential and > > may be legally privileged. 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Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise > From b_daz_l at hotmail.com Mon Oct 10 18:52:54 2011 From: b_daz_l at hotmail.com (David Knowles) Date: Mon Oct 10 18:53:12 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' In-Reply-To: References: <208659BA105146B686864A045A2FBA3E@acer20d14aded3><0A03A797D58744BD9B530436B23BB956@acer20d14aded3> Message-ID: And what exactly does this have to do with the original allegations against emergency service workers? -----Original Message----- From: Ben Kepes Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 6:11 PM To: VollyNet Subject: Re: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz ---------------------------------------------------------------- slightly off topic but for those that are interested, here's an update on the chch quake fiasco... http://www.diversity.net.nz/something-is-rotten-in-the-state-of-christchurchpart-two/2011/10/09/ b Ben Kepes - Diversity Limited E ben@diversity.net.nz | P +64 3 3146006 | M 021 2384136 skype ben_kepes | twitter @benkepes web www.diversity.net.nz On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Bruce & Pat McCulloch < b.p.mcculloch@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Yeah, I forgot, keep your hand on your wallet, when he's around! > > -----Original Message----- > From: vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz > [mailto:vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz] On Behalf Of Bruce & Pat > McCulloch > Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 11:11 p.m. > To: 'VollyNet' > Subject: RE: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > What really amazes me about all this is how politically correct he/she > appears to be. Once a crim, always a crim. And forever trying to justify > themselves. Again once a crim, always a crim. > > I AM A EX FIREFIGHTER WITH 32 YEARS, AND I NEVER, NEVER SEEN A FIREFIGHTER > EVEN INTERESTED IT TAKING/STEALING ANYTHING, PERIOD!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz > [mailto:vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz] On Behalf Of Bruce & Pat > McCulloch > Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:50 p.m. > To: 'VollyNet' > Subject: RE: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > With a grouch? > > -----Original Message----- > From: vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz > [mailto:vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz] On Behalf Of Ian & Heather King > Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 7:22 p.m. > To: VollyNet > Subject: Re: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Yes and coming from an ex firefighter too. I am lead to believe he was a > firefighter in Auckland in some capacity???? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Butler > To: VollyNet > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:34 PM > Subject: RE: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' > > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > I wonder if it possible to take a defamation case, since he is slandering > an entire service, and in effect, each individual person in it. > What a plonker. Such a poorly worded and erratic article too. It just > jumps all over the place. All rumour and generalisations, and in doing so, > painting each responder as a potential criminal. > What a fantastic way to say thank you to everyone out there that risked > their own lives to save others. > > -----Original Message----- > From: vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz > [mailto:vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.nz] On Behalf Of Shane Briggs > Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2011 6:09 p.m. > To: VollyNet > Cc: VollyNet > Subject: Re: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Claims of solders looting in other countries during war doesn't not equal > any form of evidence, of search and rescue personnel who put themselves > out > to HELP others, not rip them off! > > What an absolute clown, I'm just disappointed the media would even post > such a rumor with no evidence. > > (Sent from iPhone 4) > > On 4/10/2011, at 15:28, Paul Butler wrote: > > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10756480 > > > > Quake looting claims 'outrageous' > > Someone better have some evidence on this to cast those kind of > aspersions.... > > > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > ** > > "This message (and any files transmitted with it) are confidential and > > may be legally privileged. 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Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise > ---------------------------------------------------------------- MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise From ben at diversity.net.nz Mon Oct 10 18:56:25 2011 From: ben at diversity.net.nz (Ben Kepes) Date: Mon Oct 10 18:56:43 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' In-Reply-To: References: <208659BA105146B686864A045A2FBA3E@acer20d14aded3> <0A03A797D58744BD9B530436B23BB956@acer20d14aded3> Message-ID: as I said, it was off-topic but the original discussion forked into a discussion about our experience with looting in general... this post was the continuation of that as always, if you don't want to read it, there's a fairly simple solution by the way of the delete key b Ben Kepes - Diversity Limited E ben@diversity.net.nz | P +64 3 3146006 | M 021 2384136 skype ben_kepes | twitter @benkepes web www.diversity.net.nz On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:52 PM, David Knowles wrote: > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ------------------------------**------------------------------**---- > And what exactly does this have to do with the original allegations against > emergency service workers? > > -----Original Message----- From: Ben Kepes > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 6:11 PM > > To: VollyNet > Subject: Re: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ------------------------------**------------------------------**---- > slightly off topic but for those that are interested, here's an update on > the chch quake fiasco... > > http://www.diversity.net.nz/**something-is-rotten-in-the-** > state-of-christchurchpart-two/**2011/10/09/ > > b > > > Ben Kepes - Diversity Limited > E ben@diversity.net.nz | P +64 3 3146006 | M 021 2384136 > skype ben_kepes | twitter @benkepes > web www.diversity.net.nz > > > > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Bruce & Pat McCulloch < > b.p.mcculloch@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ >> For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz >> ------------------------------**------------------------------**---- >> Yeah, I forgot, keep your hand on your wallet, when he's around! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.**nz >> [mailto:vollynet-bounces@**vollynet.org.nz] >> On Behalf Of Bruce & Pat >> McCulloch >> Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 11:11 p.m. >> To: 'VollyNet' >> Subject: RE: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' >> >> VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ >> For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz >> ------------------------------**------------------------------**---- >> What really amazes me about all this is how politically correct he/she >> appears to be. Once a crim, always a crim. And forever trying to justify >> themselves. Again once a crim, always a crim. >> >> I AM A EX FIREFIGHTER WITH 32 YEARS, AND I NEVER, NEVER SEEN A FIREFIGHTER >> EVEN INTERESTED IT TAKING/STEALING ANYTHING, PERIOD!!! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.**nz >> [mailto:vollynet-bounces@**vollynet.org.nz] >> On Behalf Of Bruce & Pat >> McCulloch >> Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:50 p.m. >> To: 'VollyNet' >> Subject: RE: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' >> >> VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ >> For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz >> ------------------------------**------------------------------**---- >> With a grouch? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.**nz >> [mailto:vollynet-bounces@**vollynet.org.nz] >> On Behalf Of Ian & Heather King >> Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 7:22 p.m. >> To: VollyNet >> Subject: Re: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' >> >> VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ >> For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz >> ------------------------------**------------------------------**---- >> Yes and coming from an ex firefighter too. I am lead to believe he was a >> firefighter in Auckland in some capacity???? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Paul Butler >> To: VollyNet >> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:34 PM >> Subject: RE: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' >> >> >> VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ >> For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz >> ------------------------------**------------------------------**---- >> I wonder if it possible to take a defamation case, since he is slandering >> an entire service, and in effect, each individual person in it. >> What a plonker. Such a poorly worded and erratic article too. It just >> jumps all over the place. All rumour and generalisations, and in doing so, >> painting each responder as a potential criminal. >> What a fantastic way to say thank you to everyone out there that risked >> their own lives to save others. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: vollynet-bounces@vollynet.org.**nz >> [mailto:vollynet-bounces@**vollynet.org.nz] >> On Behalf Of Shane Briggs >> Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2011 6:09 p.m. >> To: VollyNet >> Cc: VollyNet >> Subject: Re: [VollyNet] WTF? Quake looting claims 'outrageous' >> >> VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ >> For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz >> ------------------------------**------------------------------**---- >> Claims of solders looting in other countries during war doesn't not equal >> any form of evidence, of search and rescue personnel who put themselves >> out >> to HELP others, not rip them off! >> >> What an absolute clown, I'm just disappointed the media would even post >> such a rumor with no evidence. >> >> (Sent from iPhone 4) >> >> On 4/10/2011, at 15:28, Paul Butler wrote: >> >> > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ >> > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz >> > ------------------------------**------------------------------**---- >> > http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/**news/article.cfm?c_id=1&** >> objectid=10756480 >> > >> > Quake looting claims 'outrageous' >> > Someone better have some evidence on this to cast those kind of >> aspersions.... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> **************************************************************** >> **************** >> ** >> > "This message (and any files transmitted with it) are confidential and >> > may be legally privileged. 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Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise > ------------------------------**------------------------------**---- > MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise > From jgmarks at xtra.co.nz Wed Oct 12 22:35:15 2011 From: jgmarks at xtra.co.nz (Marks Family) Date: Wed Oct 12 22:35:28 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] ufba_invites_submissions_on_the_proposed_model_rules_revision Message-ID: <1318412116.1877.0.camel@marks-G41MT-S2P> http://www.ufba.org.nz/news/ufba_news/ufba_invites_submissions_on_the_proposed_model_rules_revision From coldzero243 at hotmail.com Thu Oct 13 05:13:50 2011 From: coldzero243 at hotmail.com (Chris Hooson) Date: Thu Oct 13 10:14:10 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] vollynet@unreal.co.nz Message-ID: Follow the cash trail in 2011 Howdy! I have a story to share with you, its about a little town single mother who lost her office in 2009 and found a way to make enough in 2010 to buy a house of her own for her kids. She was on the news a couple of times, but never shared with anyone how she actually managed it. This person was a friend of the family who told her method to me later on last august because I was in a tough place and I just bought a new bmw last month w ith the cash I made. She changed though, we're no longer friends so i've decided to share her methods with everyone. She did me dirty so i'm returning the favor ;) Anyways, she made around $4600 a month on a SLOW month. I made around 2400 doing lazy work in the beginning, now I average 6200 a month. Ha! I suggest you follow my link and roll in the dough in 2011! clik this From blakjak at blakjak.net Thu Oct 13 10:17:07 2011 From: blakjak at blakjak.net (Mark Foster) Date: Thu Oct 13 10:17:21 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] vollynet@unreal.co.nz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E9603D3.7030901@blakjak.net> Sender unsubscribed and blackholed from the mailing list. Sorry 'bout that, folks. If anyone knows a 'Real' Chris Hooson as a volly anywheres, please email me offlist... as that moves this from 'deliberate spammage' to 'compromised email account'. Cheers Mark. On 13/10/11 05:13, Chris Hooson wrote: > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Follow the cash trail in 2011 Howdy! I have a story to share with you, its about a little town single mother who *snip* From blakjak at blakjak.net Thu Oct 13 11:12:44 2011 From: blakjak at blakjak.net (Mark Foster) Date: Thu Oct 13 11:12:57 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] vollynet@unreal.co.nz In-Reply-To: <4E9603D3.7030901@blakjak.net> References: <4E9603D3.7030901@blakjak.net> Message-ID: <4E9610DC.1060602@blakjak.net> Thanks for the off-list comments; appears Chris is indeed the real-deal and that it's likely his email account has been compromised. He'll need to sort this out and then get in touch to be allowed back on the list. Cheers Mark. On 13/10/11 10:17, Mark Foster wrote: > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Sender unsubscribed and blackholed from the mailing list. Sorry 'bout > that, folks. > > If anyone knows a 'Real' Chris Hooson as a volly anywheres, please email > me offlist... as that moves this from 'deliberate spammage' to > 'compromised email account'. > > > Cheers > Mark. > > > > On 13/10/11 05:13, Chris Hooson wrote: >> VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ >> For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> Follow the cash trail in 2011 Howdy! I have a story to share with you, its about a little town single mother who > *snip* > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise From kiwis1 at slingshot.co.nz Thu Oct 13 20:11:05 2011 From: kiwis1 at slingshot.co.nz (Stephen) Date: Thu Oct 13 20:11:19 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] News:- ChCh PFU call for RM to be replaced Message-ID: <016201cc8977$460a85b0$d21f9110$@co.nz> http://www.issuu.com/mainlandpress/docs/mp30 From jgmarks at xtra.co.nz Thu Oct 13 21:07:27 2011 From: jgmarks at xtra.co.nz (Marks Family) Date: Thu Oct 13 21:07:46 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] ufba_invites_submissions_on_the_proposed_model_rules_revision In-Reply-To: <1318412116.1877.0.camel@marks-G41MT-S2P> References: <1318412116.1877.0.camel@marks-G41MT-S2P> Message-ID: <1318493247.1700.15.camel@marks-G41MT-S2P> Below is a quote from the UFBA web site on the proposed new rule. There is one glaring error in the statement below regarding the need for brigades to get to get the approval of the FSC for any rule change. The Agreement of Service of our brigade says nothing about this and this is a bit of smoke and mirrors. I understand from other brigades in the South Island that the agreement was never ratified by most if not all brigades and all us operate on old agreements. I have read through he proposed rules and will write up some comments over the weekend. The Model Rules and the Agreement of Service are two very important document and are legal foundation of each brigade. Geoff > UFBA Invites Submissions on the Proposed Model Rules Revision > 12th October 2011 > > Most members should be aware that the UFBA has undertaken a review of > the Model Rules of Association. A small group of representatives from > the UFBA and the New Zealand Fire Service have been working on > reviewing and upgrading the existing rules and, after carefully > considering the existing rules and possible revisions, is now issuing > this document for consultation with members. > > The current version of our Model Rules have been in place for some > years, and over this time, practice and usage has identified a number > of areas where change or improvement would be considered. This > standard set of rules applies to all brigades, and as these are linked > to the Agreement of Service each brigade has with the New Zealand Fire > Service Commission, approval by that body is required for any rule > change. > > The proposed revised version of the rules is available for download > below. If you would prefer a hard copy, please make a request to Jane > Davie by email at jane@ufba.org.nzor by phone on 04 237 2683. A > template for submissions will be available on Wednesday 19 October. > > We encourage all members to thoroughly review the proposed revisions > and make submissions in writing to the UFBA on any points they wish to > comment upon. Submissions may be made by email > to modelrules@ufba.org.nz or posted to Jane Davie, United Fire > Brigades? Association, PO Box 56079, Tawa, Wellington 5249. Should > you have any questions about the consultation process, please contact > Jane directly. > > To allow for consideration of feedback prior to the Conference at the > end of November, we are requesting that members send submissions / > comments prior to 15 November. We look forward to receiving your > comments, and intend to consider each submission carefully as we work > towards finalising the Model Rules of Association. > On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 22:35 +1300, Marks Family wrote: > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.ufba.org.nz/news/ufba_news/ufba_invites_submissions_on_the_proposed_model_rules_revision > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise From hot.fire.chick at windowslive.com Fri Oct 14 07:06:18 2011 From: hot.fire.chick at windowslive.com (Kate .) Date: Fri Oct 14 07:06:37 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] News:- ChCh PFU call for RM to be replaced In-Reply-To: <016201cc8977$460a85b0$d21f9110$@co.nz> References: <016201cc8977$460a85b0$d21f9110$@co.nz> Message-ID: Not a very accurate story. Mature? I think not. Kate > From: kiwis1@slingshot.co.nz > To: vollynet@vollynet.org.nz > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:11:05 +1300 > Subject: [VollyNet] News:- ChCh PFU call for RM to be replaced > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.issuu.com/mainlandpress/docs/mp30 > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise From ben at diversity.net.nz Fri Oct 14 07:11:30 2011 From: ben at diversity.net.nz (Ben Kepes) Date: Fri Oct 14 07:11:50 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] News:- ChCh PFU call for RM to be replaced In-Reply-To: References: <016201cc8977$460a85b0$d21f9110$@co.nz> Message-ID: Dennis is a really nice guy but this is just grandstanding. It won't be long before the public starts to question that "most trusted profession" thing.... Sent from mobile. Expect typos On Oct 14, 2011 7:07 AM, "Kate ." wrote: > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Not a very accurate story. Mature? I think not. Kate > From: > kiwis1@slingshot.co.nz > > To: vollynet@vollynet.org.nz > > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:11:05 +1300 > > Subject: [VollyNet] News:- ChCh PFU call for RM to be replaced > > > > VOLLYNET : OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTING IN NZ > > For information and help see www.vollynet.org.nz > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://www.issuu.com/mainlandpress/docs/mp30 > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > MEET THE COMMUNITY! Visit www.vollynet.org.nz/profiles > > ALL posts to VollyNet should be considered statements of > personal opinion only unless specifically stated otherwise > From owenpennell at clear.net.nz Sun Oct 16 01:05:12 2011 From: owenpennell at clear.net.nz (Owen Pennell) Date: Mon Oct 31 18:34:07 2011 Subject: [VollyNet] Henderson Volunteer Fire Brigade webpage Message-ID: <44592A12970644DB963680E8169B753E@companydb89d90> Try this for the latest updates and Photographs of the Henderson Volunteer Fire Brigade. https://www.facebook.com/HendersonVolunteerFireBrigadeNZ Thanks Owen.